科比提及自己每年都要面对马刺，美国球迷细数科比击败50胜球队的次数(4)

[–]USAdoctor_dapper 92 指標 3小時前 [原文来自：www.11jj.com]

That’s a fact though. Could lebron have beaten that warriors team after playing quality teams like the thunder, rockets, spurs, etc.? The West always has a couple contenders and the only real contender in the east is lebron.

Some teams match up better against each other so it’s not as easy in the west

但是这是事实啊。要是詹姆斯在总决赛之前就遇到雷霆、火箭、马刺这样的强队，还能击败勇士吗？西部有几个争冠球队，但东部只有一支——那就是詹姆斯。

有一些球队在对位上更有优势，所以想冲出西部真的很不容易。

[–]NBARareSir 64 指標 3小時前*

But what if LeBron was on a strong contender in the west such as the Spurs? Yes, his competition would be tougher by default, as he is in the west, but he would also be on a strong west team himself. It kind of evens out.

但是，如果詹姆斯所处的是西部的一支争冠球队（比如马刺）又会怎样呢？没错，如果在西部，他将面临的竞争对手的确会更艰难，但他同样也有可能为一个实力强劲的西部球队效力啊。这么看是不是平衡点了。

Edit: When thinking about this hypothetical, we have to remember that we would be moving LeBron to the west, not one of his Cavs teams. Sure, his Cavs teams probably wouldn’t fare too well out there. But that’s not what we’re talking about. We’re talking about putting LeBron on a contender in the west. LeBron sees a lot of success in the east because it’s not very strong. But we have to keep in mind that he also sees this success because he’s a generational talent. Put him on a contending team in the west, and he will have success

PS：我们在进行假设时必须记住，我们是假设把詹姆斯放在西部，而不是把骑士队放在西部。诚然，把骑士放在西部，结果很可能不会好看。但这不是我们要讨论的问题。我们的假设是把詹姆斯放进西部的一支争冠球队里面（会怎样）。詹姆斯获得了这么多的成就，一方面是因为东部整体实力不强，但另一方面，我们要明白，更是因为詹姆斯拥有几十年一遇的天赋。詹姆斯如果在西部的争冠球队，他一样能获得成功。

[–]CavaliersJust_Dreams 70 指標 3小時前

This is the main point lost in the "LeBron couldn"t make it in the West" narrative. Yeah, he"d be playing some better teams, but by your own admission, if the West is stronger he would also by default HAVE a better team.

骑士球迷：“詹姆斯在西部无法取得成功”这种舆论恰恰是没有考虑到楼上所说的问题。没错，詹姆斯如果去了西部，必将经受更多强队的检验，但正如你们所承认的一样，如果西部比东部更强，那詹姆斯所在的西部球队就应该会比现在的骑士强。

[–]RocketsStopItTickles 42 指標 3小時前

Yeah for some reason whenever that argument is brought up people just think the Cavs are being moved West or some shit.

火箭球迷：没错，不知道什么原因，每次进行这种讨论，人们的假设总是直接把骑士队放在西部，或者说些其他的有的没的。

[–]celj1234 938 指標 5小時前

He ain’t lying

科比说的是实话啊。

[–][LAL] Coby KarlCaptMarvel23 504 指標 5小時前

Yeah maybe people who have more sypathy if he went 0-6 against the Spurs in the postseason instead of 4-2.

湖人球迷：是的，要是科比在季后赛不是4-2赢了马刺而是0-6被横扫，那他可能会得到更多的同情。

[–]KnicksWhitePeopleLoveCurry 96 指標 3小時前

Yep you have to lose repeatedly to great teams for some to believe they"re great.

没错，你必须得连续败给伟大的球队，一些人才会觉得这些球队足够伟大。

[–]Jazznosferobots 95 指標 3小時前

He sure is on legacy alert 24/7 lately though

爵士球迷：不过最近的科比可是时时刻刻都在担心自己的历史地位啊。

[–]gianni_cerqueti 101 指標 2小時前

Well maybe that"s because a lot of people need to shit on his legacy to push LeBron ahead of him. Which is somehow meaningful but don"t mind me

也许是因为，很多人觉得自己需要踩科比一脚才能把詹姆斯排在科比前面？在我看来这根本没有任何意义。

[–]EastKruNCHBoX 70 指標 7小時前

kobe come on man spurs are not the fucking warriors